I agree! I think as it applies to Arya, it is good that her abusers die, that trash deserved to die, but … it’s less than ideal that Arya be the one to do it IMO. She’s not “losing her humanity” but the killing is its own form of trauma for her.
Agreed so hard. I wish it were someone else, though part of that is Arya’s remembrance of Ned’s lessons:
The Starks were at war with the Lannisters and she was a Stark, so she should kill as many Lannisters as she could, that was what you did in wars. But she didn’t think she should trust Jaqen. I should kill them myself. Whenever her father had condemned a man to death, he did the deed himself with Ice, his greatsword. “If you would take a man’s life, you owe it to him to look him in the face and hear his last words,” she’d heard him tell Robb and Jon once. ACoK
Just look at how she sees it “that’s what you do in wars”, child soldier aspects in play here definitely. Shows exactly how Arya developed such a mentality that she has now (killing enemies helps loved ones, killing personally is the right thing to do, if you’re going to kill someone, do it yourself, ect.)
But really one of the main reasons Arya kills people personally (if not the only reason) is because of her father’s influence. She always refers back to his lessons over her journey and tries to abide by what he taught her (and Jon/Robb.)
Oh, and 100% agree with the trauma. The nightmares she has of everyone she’s killed, and the shame she feels when she recalls her killings attest to that. I mean the fact that the nightmare of her killings has such details such as how it felt to plunge a knife into the Tickler really indicates that. The fact that she worries over whether or not the victims from the Weasel Soup incident and Chiswyck/Weese “count” also says it all.
I always worry about the fact that people might think I’m trying to advocate for Arya killing, or glorifying it, but really I find it very sad. And I always view the Tickler’s death as depressing.
But on the other side, I really think it’s important for people to acknowledge that the life Arya has lived, the world of ASoIaF, really dictates that Arya can be an incredibly compassionate, friendly person who wants to help innocents and support people “kind to her” and miss home and her family and be all these nice, normal things while being able to kill someone. These aren’t exclusive ideas for the type of world Arya lives in.
People tend to view this in such a modern way- if you kill and want to then you’re a killer and don’t have respect for human life. But in Arya’s world, respecting human life (like Lommy and all those poor villagers who were tortured to death) coincides with killing. Arya has such a respect for human life that she is horrified over the long dead slaves of Old Valyria not being granted justice and instead dying themselves instead of their abusers.
I guess my point is that the world GRRM has created makes instances like Arya killing Raff the Sweetling everything from sad to gratifying, heroic to disturbing, badass and tragic, illustrative of a taking control and being forced out of control. People oversimplify these things, they are so complex.
Acknowledging Arya’s considerable competency and- dare I say it- badassery shouldn’t equate to people viewing Arya’s trauma as being overlooked. She’s kickass and traumatized, this isn’t an either or thing that some people try to see it as. Shades of grey make up the ASoIaF world.
do you ever have those moments where you’re catching your friend up on a series and they make a random guess on something that’s going to happen and it’s actually 100% right and you just sit there like
"MUST NOT LET THEM KNOW"
i wish sten was a romance option
it would solve my problems
but no i am left to wonder if i should romance alistair or zevran
"why didn’t you do your homework over the holidays?"